-------------Holt------Ch 1 Doing, Not "Education"---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"I choose to define [education] here as most people do, something that some people do to others for their own good,... tl.gd/ergi4u
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"People still spend a great deal of time—as for years I did myself—talking about how to make 'education' more effec... tl.gd/ergk97
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"Education, with its supporting system of compulsory and competitive schooling, all its carrots and sticks, its gra... tl.gd/erglsk
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"My concern is not to improve 'education' but to do away with it, to end the ugly and antihuman business of people-... tl.gd/ergn09
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"People would be busy doing interesting things that mattered, and they would grow more informed, competent, and wis... tl.gd/ergr6k
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"What people talk and argue about instead is growth, efficiency, and progress, and how human beings may best be sel... tl.gd/ergs63
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"Children do not need to be made to learn about the world, or shown how. They want to, and they know how." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"what we can do and should do right now is attack the legitimacy of compulsory education and schooling." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"You cannot have human liberty, and the sense of all persons' uniqueness, dignity, and worth on which it must rest,... tl.gd/erh69r
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"You cannot have human liberty, and the sense of all persons' uniqueness, dignity, and worth on which it must rest,... tl.gd/erh69r
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"Almost everyone who goes through S-chools comes out believing (1) if I want to learn anything important, I have to... tl.gd/erhb86
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"The trouble with talk about 'learning experiences' is that it implies that all experiences can be divided into two... tl.gd/erhe3r
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"It is the quality of our experiences, the satisfaction, excitement, or joy that we get or fail to get from them, t... tl.gd/erhghi
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"Another common and mistaken idea hidden in the word 'learning' is that learning and doing are different kinds of acts." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"Another common and mistaken idea hidden in the word 'learning' is that learning and doing are different kinds of acts." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"It may be true, at the level of words, to say that anyone doing a difficult thing well is using a variety of skill... tl.gd/erhk19
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"our most rapid, efficient, far-reaching, useful, and permanent learning comes from our doing things that we oursel... tl.gd/erhn5u
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"As Ivan Illich says, there is no knowledge in the world; the world is as it is. Knowledge is a process in the minds of living people." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
-----------Holt-------Ch 3 Do-er Schools vs. Educator Schools---------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
-----------Holt-------Ch 3 Do-er Schools vs. Educator Schools---------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"On the doing side, people are helping do-ers do what they have freely decided what they want to do. On the educati... tl.gd/eri6vs
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"even the most pleasant or interesting classes in a S-chool are part of a system of compulsion and coercion, bribe ... tl.gd/eri8nj
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"No one is fired for hiding the truth from children, but many are fired for telling the truth." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
"They want to learn about the world from us. What they learn, most of the time, is only that we adults pretend, kee... tl.gd/ericbj
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 21, 2011
------------Holt----------Ch 4 Resources for Do-ers---------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 22, 2011
------------Holt---------Ch 5 More Resourcesfor Do-ers-------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 23, 2011
"A very good model for resources for do-ers is the public library. Unlike S-chools, it does not say we must use it,... tl.gd/esq101
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 23, 2011
"Once people grasped the idea that anyone could write down his thoughts for other people to read, it might make gre... tl.gd/esqn3g
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 23, 2011
"how can there be a compact of trust when the student is not free to choose what he shall learn, or when, or how, o... tl.gd/etf6n4
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
"The true teacher must always be trying to work himself out of a job." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
"If the student can't hurt himself doing the harder task, let him try it if he wants. The most valuable and indeed ... tl.gd/etfm14
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
"one of the stupidest things the S-chool do is insist that children 'comprehend' everything they read, and read onl... tl.gd/etfn00
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
"It is hard for us to think about what we do well without thinking, or remember what it was like not to be able to ... tl.gd/etfus6
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
"The work load for T-eachers in conventionalS-chools is so heavy only because the S-chool and the T-eachers believ... tl.gd/etg3is
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
"If the child reads only when he wants to, and asks for help only when he feels he needs it, he will work at full c... tl.gd/etg4fp
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@anderscj I have been following your 'Holt' tweets for a while. Which book are you referring to? Could u plz mention a link? I am clueless!
— Faiza Khan (@FaizaK) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK Instead of Education
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@anderscj I need more insight into the last couple of tweets regarding reading; what should be encouraged and what shouldn't be.
— Faiza Khan (@FaizaK) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK According to Holt, we shouldn't interfere that much. Answer questions when asked and offer support but otherwise stay out of the way
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@anderscj my 7 yr old gobbles books for 8+. she follows the story well but she doesn't ask for def of new words. Should I insist she learn?
— Faiza Khan (@FaizaK) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK perhaps she is learning those words through context
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK she may even attribute false definitions to them. According to Piaget this is normal and a necessary step.
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK how often do you hear a new word and not ask about the definition?
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK how many words does she know that have not been "defined" for her?
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@anderscj that made me stop and think that what i was doing was wrong & ask myself what should I do?
— Faiza Khan (@FaizaK) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK I've had plenty of instances like this with my daughter too. What I struggle most with is applying these concepts in a classroom.
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK often it feels like what I'm expected to do and what I know students need are at odds.
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK often good teaching doesn't look the way rubrics like Charlotte Danielson tell us it should look.
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK we always look at what the teacher does to promote learning, rarely do we look at what they intentionally don't do.
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
@anderscj The not-doing part is equally important, I get it now. :) Thanks for a great conversation.
— Faiza Khan (@FaizaK) December 24, 2011
@FaizaK thank you
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 24, 2011
-----------Holt-------Ch 8 More t-eachers at Work------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"Physics is not going to lead the child to jet engines, but wondering about jet planes will lead him to Physics." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"Knowledge cannot be given...To make meaning out of my words you must use your own experience." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"it is not the t-eacher's business to make sure the do-er understands. It is the do-er's business." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"we find it hard to find most of our mistakes because we are so rarely told how the do-ers of the past came to make... tl.gd/f0230b
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"People who are happy about their lives and work don't usually write much about them. It's the people who are unhappy who write." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"This is a terrible temptation for ambitious T-eachers. They are always looking for some interest in their students... tl.gd/f02g7u
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"give the students the answer sheet. This would free the students from dependence...spare [the teacher] of much dull and needless (cont…
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
…cont) work." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"Students who write badly do not do so because 'they have no standards,' but because the standards they are trying ... tl.gd/f02kr1
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"We learn to use language well, spoken or written, only when we use it for a purpose, our purpose, to say something... tl.gd/f02lqq
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
"one of the most important reasons I want to do away with all compulsory schooling and learning is so that I can ca... tl.gd/f02n4n
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 28, 2011
-------------Holt----------Ch 9 The True Authority of t-eachers-------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
"coercive authority does not complement and support natural authority, but undermines and destroys it." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
"If you want me to be your teacher, to accept a responsibility for making you learn or understand something, you must ask me." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
-----------Holt----------Ch 10 On Human Nature------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
"People behave as they think others expect them to behave." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
"A person convinced that he and all others are selfish and greedy will act greedy will act greedily and selfishly, ... tl.gd/f0np8a
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
"The person who fears everyone creates the behavior he fears." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
"Rulers will order others to do what they themselves would never do; the ruled will do under orders what they would... tl.gd/f0nrai
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 29, 2011
------------Holt-------Ch 11 One of the Best S-chools--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 30, 2011
"Why does there always have to be an 'outcome?' When I go to see something that interests me, I don't have to do a ... tl.gd/f1dnnu
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 30, 2011
"We are so used to the game that adults and children play, even in 'open' schools, the adults worrying about how to... tl.gd/f1dqmp
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 30, 2011
"we can trust children to find out about the world, and that when trusted, they do find out." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 30, 2011
"The reason children seemed at first to like Math Labs or Science Labs so much is that they were so much better tha... tl.gd/f1e23j
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 30, 2011
"I said to some young architects that an ideal school should never be finished, so that the children could keep red... tl.gd/f1e6ra
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 30, 2011
"Most kids, most of the time, will swap a pound of love for an ounce of competence." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 30, 2011
------------Holt------------Ch 12 The Failure of School Reform---------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 31, 2011
"movements to reform S-chools never last very long. They soon fall out of fashion, reaction sets in, and most of th... tl.gd/f22rdb
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 31, 2011
"It is none of the S-chool's damn business whether a child comes to S-chool happy or is happy in S-chool—even if th... tl.gd/f23am6
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 31, 2011
"It is already bad enough that a child, having done nothing wrong, should be asked to endure such a place. It is in... tl.gd/f23c1i
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 31, 2011
"we may be sure that everything our busy researchers learn about molding, shaping, and controlling human beings wil... tl.gd/f23ef6
— anderscj (@anderscj) December 31, 2011
--------Holt--------Ch 13 What S-chools Are For--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"The first task is to shut young people out of adult society." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"A much more important and indeed essential social function of S-chools is ranking—that is, grading and labeling, p... tl.gd/f2mlba
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"To be peaceful and stable, every society organized into winners and losers must persuade the losers that this stat... tl.gd/f2mn3m
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"Many educators will protest that ranking is not what grades and tests are for, but only to help children learn, an... tl.gd/f2mpg8
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"Fear of the test blocked their minds long before the actually had to take it; fear made them do much worse than th... tl.gd/f2mrs7
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"Most parents, when they say to S-chools, 'Give my kid a quality education,' mean, 'Do something to him that will g... tl.gd/f2mv7a
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"The danger of letting people ask, 'Is this the best way to do this job?' is that after a while they may ask, 'Is this job worth doing?"Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"most losers come to believe, and must believe in order to save some meaning and dignity from their own loser lives... tl.gd/f2nb66
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
----------Holt---------Ch 14 What All S-chools Must Teach-------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"S-chools and T-eachers generally use materials and texts that support the official curriculum; given the power to ... tl.gd/f2nhi4
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"When the S-chool and T-eachers already know what the student should learn, why let the students interrupt them with questions?" Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"when we reward children for doing what they like to do—find out about the world—they soon learn only to do it for rewards." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"In teaching that everything good is rewarded, the S-chools teach that what is not rewarded is not good. The things... tl.gd/f2no83
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"Also, in order to rank us, the S-chools must constantly test and measure us. Doing so, they teach us to believe th... tl.gd/f2npeq
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
"S-chools make knowledge scarce, make most of us think that what we know isn't true or doesn't count." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 1, 2012
----------Holt---------Ch 15 The Obedient Torturers---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
"Here then, in a nutshell, is what S-chools do. They teach people to obey authority, i.e., to push the 450-volt but... tl.gd/f39kch
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
"The child soon learns that the most important thing in S-chool, indeed the only important thing, is to get gold st... tl.gd/f39mam
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
"We use moral judgement only when we make choices, serious choices, choices that lead to action—and no student can ... tl.gd/f3adjl
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
--------Holt-------Ch 16 S-chools into s-chools------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
"we might before long be able in many states to pass laws that one could take the equivalency exam at any age—or ev... tl.gd/f3anip
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
"Many children, rich and poor, white and nonwhite, have shown that in the right kind of environment they can learn ... tl.gd/f3b1tm
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
"On the whole, poor people believe at least as strongly as rich that children only learn through bribes, threats, greed, and fear." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
"It seems only fair that if the state can force young people to go to school it should at least allow them to pick the school." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 2, 2012
-----------Holt-----------Ch 17 Why Teach?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"this is not a book against teaching. It is a book against the defeat of teaching by education." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"If you come to believe someday, as in time I did, that the very nature and purposes of the S-chool make it impossi... tl.gd/f3trvt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"In a place where every part of their lives and thought is decided, controlled, and judged by authorities, how coul... tl.gd/f3tu87
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"Those who want to teach in an intelligent and humane way, making full use of the powers and interests of children,... tl.gd/f3u7ve
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"A teacher who does not use fear and does not need to use it, who makes his students less afraid, and so makes them... tl.gd/f3ua2f
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"A winner-loser society is not going to be changed by its winners; a society run by a few people at the top is not ... tl.gd/f3ucsi
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"As long as S-chools remain S-chools—compulsory, coercive, competitive—any changes we make in them will not go very... tl.gd/f3uedi
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"If s-chools, doing places for children, are honest, active, and interesting enough, they will not need to be compu... tl.gd/f3ugsr
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
------------Holt----------Ch 18 Do We Have a Chance?------------------------------------------------------------------------------
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"For the rulers of society, S-chools have been useful because they have taught most people how to live and work lik... tl.gd/f3uiu8
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"As usual, when humanity has to pay for its mistakes, the sacrifices fall most heavily on those who have the least." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"Any child who can spend an hour or two a day, or more if he wants, with adults that he likes, who are interested i... tl.gd/f3unoi
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"a parent whose child complains about something done to him at school would be wise to begin, at least, by assuming... tl.gd/f3uqrg
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"if a child is upset, or fearful, or otherwise unhappy about S-chool, the parents should listen attentively and res... tl.gd/f3v21b
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"Any T-eacher who is dumb and lazy enough to do his teaching out of a manual deserves whatever he gets." Holt
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"But of course, the most important trick in beating the S-chool game is to know that it is a game, as abstract, unr... tl.gd/f3v748
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
"compulsory and competitive schooling (including colleges and universities) is a $100-billion-a-year business, base... tl.gd/f3vei7
— anderscj (@anderscj) January 3, 2012
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